Hi! I stumbled across this piece, and I have a question that I have not seen answered anywhere. From my understanding, the covid vaccines cause some of our own body's cells to produce the covid spike, which in turn causes our immune system to mount a response to whichever of our own cells that produced the spike. Do any other vaccines cause our immune system to go after our own cells? Is it possible that we could see autoimmune issues stemming from this? Any clarification would be welcome. Thanks for taking time to write about this. FWIW - I am fully vaxxed, and I just had my three eligible children vaccinated today. I am genuinely curious about this particular aspect of these vaccines.
Thank you so much for this. I have a friend who's gone super Christian and is refusing the vaccine because she's pregnant. She said she contacted Pfzier and they did not endorse it for pregnant people. Do you have any insights I could pass on to persuade her? I've kinda given up on her but it's hard, we've been friends for 20+ years and I just want to shake her
A question: i'm particularly intrigued by the bit where you say 'We are born with DNA that encodes this intricate immune system. This DNA was inherited from our parents who inherited it from theirs and so on. Within the DNA is encoded our immune responses to every bacteria and virus that our ancestors were exposed to over the millenia.'
I thought that I had exactly the same risk of succumbing to polio as my great great grandmother - the reason I didnt get it was because I was vaccinated. This implies that if my great great grandma caught polio, then some of her immune response would be passed to me?
If I've interpreted this correctly then getting vaxxed (or indeed catching COVID and recovering) confers immunity to family who are yet to be conceived? Have I understood this correctly? Can you explain more about this process?
You are so right. I too wish there were changes to the system and I'd dearly love for healthcare and health preserving measures like warm and dry housing to be accessible and funded adequately. Unfortunately that's not the case in the now. We need to do the best we can, for the best outcomes, for the most people, with what we have now. 💛
Christopher thank you so much for this absolute gem (and the many more articles by you that I look forward to discovering on here). I am an old friend of Marks (Wanaka ski days) and it was extra special to hear him read it. I am a young mum and a stage 4 cancer patient and I found it very hard deciding whether to get vaccinated because of my fear (and very vague comprehension) that the spike proteins my body will now always produce (post vaccine) may one day lead to auto immune disfunction - and my immune system being robust is everything in my fight against cancer. I am now double vaxxed. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on this 'theory'.
You mentioned in your article that if you got enough positive feedback that you would write another one on how the immune system works and why vaccines are so important - please do!
Thank you again for sharing your insightful wisdom. Roo
Love all of this. However not acknowledging the legitimate reasons why people are worried, simply adds fuel to the fire. It cannot be pushed aside that there are very legitimate reasons, worries and concerns why people do not want to take the vaccines, also, it is quite disturbing how the vaccine is placed as our only solution, when we know there are various ways, including a multidrug treatment plan to rid the body of C19. Transmission absolutely happens with vaccinated individuals. In the UK we have a collective of over 60% of the population vaccinated, and yet we are seeing very high cases of covid. These cases are being passed on by vaccinated individuals as well as non vaccinated. You also list some quite horrific things with relation to covid, however, you do not provide context of those horrible things that will happen to a person. You fail to point out that in certain age groups, the likelihood of being hospitalised is so low that it doesn't register, and yet we are vaccinating these individuals, who by evidence based in society, will still pass the virus to others. We are talking about vaccinating children as young as 5. Official NSPCC statistics show that 26 children under the age of 12 in the UK have passed away with covid. 19 of those had severe illness or disability. 4 of those had other severe viruses in their system, 2 had "equipment complications". And 1 child passed away with c19 without any other illness or problems. And we are now talking of vaccinating this age group.... I believe in the power of vaccines and our bodies to work, harmoniously. Simply brandishing somebody with a tag of Anti-vax. Is quite honestly disgusting, divisive and is a piece of language that should be placed in the same trash heap as the word "Brexit". In Australia, if you do not support vaccine mandating, you are classed as anti-vax. If we provide information, that is counter to the current narrative, we are brandished anti-vax. It has become a slur that really means nothing. I suggest we stop turning on one another, hear peoples reasons and move on with our individual lives.
Hi Christopher, very good article, thank you for that.
I have a question regarding the booster. If I understood you well, the second jab is already a precautionary measure pushed by the governmemnt(s); as a "better be safe than sorry" approach. How can we than have some experts telling us that the pfizer vaccine is loosing efficiency after 6 months, and how is it measured then?
Kia ora Christopher, thanks for an excellent read. Do you have any specific insights on getting the vaccine during (any stage) pregnancy? During what is often an anxious time already the vaccine info seems to be a minefield, unfortunately, even for those usually on board with mainstream medical advice; reassurance is not that easy to come by. Thank you in advance
Hi, this was an interesting read, thank you. Do you have any independent articles on the low transmission you refer to as I keep hearing different thoughts on this? Thanks :)
My favourite part of this is when you cynically talk about people working in real estate and then rediscovering their lust for science - and then admitting you’re no scientist either! Nice work! Great writing style that really takes a few facts and makes a really convincing story about how safe and effective this vaccination is.
It’s great that you’re not wanting to be part of the misinformation network. Hope that works out for you.
Yada-yada-yada, completely devoid of any substance, just the same old psychological manipulation like ego boosting (you, my virtuous friend, trust my "science") and shaming (and you, my skeptical friend, are danger to the society). My family members who spent most part of their lives under a communist regime recognize it instantly.
very good read but you could have made it shorter and more palatable by resisting the need to patronise every thinking person out there who is working through the question. i’m pro-vax and Pfizer vaccinated for Covid but not all the unvaccinated are dumb, selfish muppets failing in their civil duty. it’s a terrible and confusing time for everyone. you are blessed as you have had the chance to get a great education and thank you for sharing that data with us, it’s really helpful and generous of you but there’s kinder ways to win over the dissenting voice. your scientific content is able to speak for itself, it doesn’t need the thumping packaging that renders the “unbeliever” to the idiot corner. that said, i have shared this article on because yeh, i want people to get vaccinated even though i know a lot less than you about the vaccine process. people are suffering on both sides of the question. people i love and respect. i’m sure you get my drift.
So all say and I have read all . Answer this question why . In Cambodia were my wife from . And her brother 3vax got covid . His 19 year old son died . They never vaccine pregnant. Or want to be pregnant . And India 1bigest vaccine producers in world does not do virtually no vax . they're using ivermectin . Virtually 0000.1 percent died one city 230 million 56 died covid no vaccine . And not a vaccine . Definition of a vaccine look it up .
Hi! I stumbled across this piece, and I have a question that I have not seen answered anywhere. From my understanding, the covid vaccines cause some of our own body's cells to produce the covid spike, which in turn causes our immune system to mount a response to whichever of our own cells that produced the spike. Do any other vaccines cause our immune system to go after our own cells? Is it possible that we could see autoimmune issues stemming from this? Any clarification would be welcome. Thanks for taking time to write about this. FWIW - I am fully vaxxed, and I just had my three eligible children vaccinated today. I am genuinely curious about this particular aspect of these vaccines.
Thank you so much for this. I have a friend who's gone super Christian and is refusing the vaccine because she's pregnant. She said she contacted Pfzier and they did not endorse it for pregnant people. Do you have any insights I could pass on to persuade her? I've kinda given up on her but it's hard, we've been friends for 20+ years and I just want to shake her
A question: i'm particularly intrigued by the bit where you say 'We are born with DNA that encodes this intricate immune system. This DNA was inherited from our parents who inherited it from theirs and so on. Within the DNA is encoded our immune responses to every bacteria and virus that our ancestors were exposed to over the millenia.'
I thought that I had exactly the same risk of succumbing to polio as my great great grandmother - the reason I didnt get it was because I was vaccinated. This implies that if my great great grandma caught polio, then some of her immune response would be passed to me?
If I've interpreted this correctly then getting vaxxed (or indeed catching COVID and recovering) confers immunity to family who are yet to be conceived? Have I understood this correctly? Can you explain more about this process?
This is wonderful thank you.
You are so right. I too wish there were changes to the system and I'd dearly love for healthcare and health preserving measures like warm and dry housing to be accessible and funded adequately. Unfortunately that's not the case in the now. We need to do the best we can, for the best outcomes, for the most people, with what we have now. 💛
Christopher thank you so much for this absolute gem (and the many more articles by you that I look forward to discovering on here). I am an old friend of Marks (Wanaka ski days) and it was extra special to hear him read it. I am a young mum and a stage 4 cancer patient and I found it very hard deciding whether to get vaccinated because of my fear (and very vague comprehension) that the spike proteins my body will now always produce (post vaccine) may one day lead to auto immune disfunction - and my immune system being robust is everything in my fight against cancer. I am now double vaxxed. But I'd love to hear your thoughts on this 'theory'.
You mentioned in your article that if you got enough positive feedback that you would write another one on how the immune system works and why vaccines are so important - please do!
Thank you again for sharing your insightful wisdom. Roo
Love all of this. However not acknowledging the legitimate reasons why people are worried, simply adds fuel to the fire. It cannot be pushed aside that there are very legitimate reasons, worries and concerns why people do not want to take the vaccines, also, it is quite disturbing how the vaccine is placed as our only solution, when we know there are various ways, including a multidrug treatment plan to rid the body of C19. Transmission absolutely happens with vaccinated individuals. In the UK we have a collective of over 60% of the population vaccinated, and yet we are seeing very high cases of covid. These cases are being passed on by vaccinated individuals as well as non vaccinated. You also list some quite horrific things with relation to covid, however, you do not provide context of those horrible things that will happen to a person. You fail to point out that in certain age groups, the likelihood of being hospitalised is so low that it doesn't register, and yet we are vaccinating these individuals, who by evidence based in society, will still pass the virus to others. We are talking about vaccinating children as young as 5. Official NSPCC statistics show that 26 children under the age of 12 in the UK have passed away with covid. 19 of those had severe illness or disability. 4 of those had other severe viruses in their system, 2 had "equipment complications". And 1 child passed away with c19 without any other illness or problems. And we are now talking of vaccinating this age group.... I believe in the power of vaccines and our bodies to work, harmoniously. Simply brandishing somebody with a tag of Anti-vax. Is quite honestly disgusting, divisive and is a piece of language that should be placed in the same trash heap as the word "Brexit". In Australia, if you do not support vaccine mandating, you are classed as anti-vax. If we provide information, that is counter to the current narrative, we are brandished anti-vax. It has become a slur that really means nothing. I suggest we stop turning on one another, hear peoples reasons and move on with our individual lives.
Hi Christopher, very good article, thank you for that.
I have a question regarding the booster. If I understood you well, the second jab is already a precautionary measure pushed by the governmemnt(s); as a "better be safe than sorry" approach. How can we than have some experts telling us that the pfizer vaccine is loosing efficiency after 6 months, and how is it measured then?
Take care and stay safe in golden bay!
Gerard
Kia ora Christopher, thanks for an excellent read. Do you have any specific insights on getting the vaccine during (any stage) pregnancy? During what is often an anxious time already the vaccine info seems to be a minefield, unfortunately, even for those usually on board with mainstream medical advice; reassurance is not that easy to come by. Thank you in advance
Good job Chris! If only more people could follow your reasoning :)
Good read thank you.
Most of my anti vaccination friends are worried about side effects. How would you handle that in a dinner conversation?
Hi, this was an interesting read, thank you. Do you have any independent articles on the low transmission you refer to as I keep hearing different thoughts on this? Thanks :)
Christopher, would you chime in on the effectiveness of natural immunity from having survived COVID?
My favourite part of this is when you cynically talk about people working in real estate and then rediscovering their lust for science - and then admitting you’re no scientist either! Nice work! Great writing style that really takes a few facts and makes a really convincing story about how safe and effective this vaccination is.
It’s great that you’re not wanting to be part of the misinformation network. Hope that works out for you.
Yada-yada-yada, completely devoid of any substance, just the same old psychological manipulation like ego boosting (you, my virtuous friend, trust my "science") and shaming (and you, my skeptical friend, are danger to the society). My family members who spent most part of their lives under a communist regime recognize it instantly.
very good read but you could have made it shorter and more palatable by resisting the need to patronise every thinking person out there who is working through the question. i’m pro-vax and Pfizer vaccinated for Covid but not all the unvaccinated are dumb, selfish muppets failing in their civil duty. it’s a terrible and confusing time for everyone. you are blessed as you have had the chance to get a great education and thank you for sharing that data with us, it’s really helpful and generous of you but there’s kinder ways to win over the dissenting voice. your scientific content is able to speak for itself, it doesn’t need the thumping packaging that renders the “unbeliever” to the idiot corner. that said, i have shared this article on because yeh, i want people to get vaccinated even though i know a lot less than you about the vaccine process. people are suffering on both sides of the question. people i love and respect. i’m sure you get my drift.
So all say and I have read all . Answer this question why . In Cambodia were my wife from . And her brother 3vax got covid . His 19 year old son died . They never vaccine pregnant. Or want to be pregnant . And India 1bigest vaccine producers in world does not do virtually no vax . they're using ivermectin . Virtually 0000.1 percent died one city 230 million 56 died covid no vaccine . And not a vaccine . Definition of a vaccine look it up .